Please Note

New rules for running MR8/DR8 - due to Windows security features.

Hold down the Windows button and press E. Open the C:\ drive.
Right click on the MR folder and left click Properties. Click on the Security tab.

If you are the only one who uses this machine then select Authenticated Users press the Edit Button and then Full Control, then Apply and OK.

If you share the machine with other none MR8/DR8 users you might need to give just your user that privilege.

Many people don't!. By default data (your week files) are stored on the C Drive in folder C:\mr\data, unless you are running on a network and know where your data is stored, DO NOT CHANGE THIS!

Memory sticks are not designed to be used as primary storage where you have many (10,000's) of read/write cycles to the same physical address.

The purpose of backing up your data is to protect you from Hard Disk Failure, Fire, Your PC being stolen. All of which have happened to my customers in the past.

It is pointless backing up the the C: drive if that fails you loose your backup copy as well.

Ideally the data should be in at least two places. So as an absolute minimum do a Primary Backup to a USB Memory Stick. Which if you keep it plugged in is likely to be stolen or damaged with the PC. So think also about a Secondary Backup to the cloud using Google Drive or DropBox - as well.

Modification History

Most bugs reported here fall into the “slight irritation” class. Most are fixed in very short time. If you find a bug, or you find some aspect of the system particularly annoying, or we have fixed a bug incorrectly, please let us know! We will fix it and post an updated system on our web site:- http://www.milkroundsoftware.co.uk

15th May 2023

Please Call Me on 07947 606635 if you find any listings that have:-

Blank pages at the end.

Listings that have pages missing.

Listings that are not printing properly or not at all.

Please make a detailed note of how the the failing list was created. I might want you to demonstrate it to me.

If you need tor revert to the last good version then use C:\MR\downloads\???_Installer_230107.exe

This is not asked when collection men are not used.

Please report any bugs.Don't send me an email - CALL ME

6th April 2023

I now think I have finally fixed these problems. Let me know!

This doesn't always show and may lie dormant. The screen does not show and nothing can be input. Pressing Esc gets you back to the front screen.
Remedy - Click Print All Cust hold down Alt key and press Space Bar. Click Maximise. That should display missing window. Then Left click on top bar of wiindow and drag down to resize the window.

7th Jan 2023

Thanks to the many people who flagged up (still more) bugs with printing. Also to those who took the time to show them to me. I think at last most of the problems have be overcome. Let me know!

2nd Jan 2023

There have been a few undocumented mods during Nov-Dec 2022, so please do Update!

The preferred method is to click Help - Get Update. Why? The new update installer file is saved in folder C:\MR\downloads so that if you find a bug you can easily revert back to an earlier version.

Thanks to the many people who flagged up bugs with print to pdf. I think most of the problems have be overcome.

Still in development but getting much closer to first testing with live users. Will keep you informed.

Just yesterday it was found not to be saving edits using the up/down buttons. Now fixed.

Happy New Year an thank you for your forbearance.

16th Nov 2022

The new link will launch MSP360-Connect if you have already installed it, other wise it will take you to the page with the download link. Make things much simpler.

Still in development but getting closer to first testing with live users. Will keep you informed.

29th Oct 2022

Sorry, last mod accidently hid the Grid in the Hoy-Sync Screen. Now it's back!

26th Oct 2022

If you haven't tried this you really should it could save you hours of manual work with bank statements.

HSBC Bank .csv file has been added .

12th Oct 2022

First line of .csv (xls) file showed Gross Vat Sales not Net in Net Amount - fixed eventually.

Bug when editing blank customers. My fault. Please report any bugs.

1st Oct 2022

Now does'nt display cost price if No_Viewing_Buyin_Prices chosen in Office System. Please report any bugs.

Bug when editing blank customers. My fault. Please report any bugs.

13th Sept 2022

This has changed to make editing stock data easier. Please report any bugs.

9th Sept 2022

This has been corrected.

After installing this version please check that changes done on the PC are correctly transferred to the HH/Phone/Tablet during Hotsync.

27th Aug 2022

This has been corrected.

Sorry it has taken sooo long.

25th Aug 2022

The addition of this function created a side effect where the Invoice Printing in the Scrolling List and The Customer Edit Screens - List to Screen did not work correctly. Should now!.

This feature can now be switched off from within the Invoice Options screen.

22th Aug 2022

It now operates as it should. Click the "Deliver to" edit box - An enlarged deliver to area opens where you can type up to 250 characters. Click again on Deliver to edit box - the enlarged area disappears.

This can be created from either Print all Customers - Summaries - End of Week - VAT Whole Business or whilst printing Print all Customers - Summaries - End of Week Summary - Whole Business. In the latter case there is an option to email the file.

17th Aug 2022

There was a occasional bug when printing to Microsoft Print to PDF. Print to Screen/Printer has been replaced by Print to Screen/Printer/PDF File.

To comply with Health and Safety requirements Delivery Notes now have a line where Delivery Temperature, Time, Driver Name, Received By, can be entered.

24th May 2022

Added search for customers with CYCLE, and Alternate Week items.

5th May 2022

They have changed again. In the mean time this should work.

23rd March 2022

They have changed and not for the better. I expect more changes soon. In the mean time this should work.

10th February 2022

This is a complete rewrite of "Raise/Lower/Insert/Reverse/Delete/Move Block" of customers in the scrolling list. It was prompted by a number of users having customers deleted/duplicated for no apparent reason. If you are moving a block of customers more than 20 places it is much easier to highlight the block, click Make Block then go to the destination, place cursor and click Move Block. Enjoy - thanks Richard!

6th January 2022

If you installed the 31st December 2021 update OR if you print invoices by Select Round then you need thisT update.

31st December 2021

Went to the wrong if there had been large changes to data is last weeks. Thanks Mr. McLintock

Added previously genereate a an array bound error.

When printing emailing invoices on Selected Round the first email was send correctly the rest to random customers. Thanks Adam! If you find faults please call.

9th December 2021

Warning meant for GoCardless Users removed! Thanks Mr. Stern

8th December 2021

Oops Again! In an effort to stop ME sending emails to your customers, it seems that I stopped it for everyone. The normal operation has been resumed! I Thought! It has now!

19th November 2021

Oops! In an effort to stop ME sending emails to your customers, it seems that I stopped it for everyone. The normal operation has been resumed!

18th November 2021

Back by special request - I have restored the old function to allow users to add an extra Alternate Week tab to each customer. This makes it easier to manually change customers orders over Christmas un-restricted by the two weeks in the operation of the Bring Forward function.

In the Change Special Prices function a Reset Special Price function has been added.

A trial implementation with 7000+ customers is being undertaken with editing from website. Whilst this is not the preferred solution it will give some much needed access. An update has been made to the system to allow that many customers to be accessed.

3rd November 2021

May contain bugs. Bug involving multiple payments of the same statement entry, cause found and fixed - I think!

Long standing bug which only manifests itself when rounds do not have a blank customer at the end. It was including last customer of previous round. Now does not. This may have resulted in double entires in DD bills and customers getting two emailed invoices.

I have seen this is two users data. It is thought to be associated with the bug above. I have included a test to stop that happening.

I have tidied this up deleting cancelled customers DD data from their data. Listings are now in customer order.

Someone reminded me that previously yoiu could type a message in the text box on the Select Advert screen. You can now do that again.

13th October 2021

These now print correctly.

This displayed a random customer number now we might be able to interpret the error message!

4th October 2021

Attempt to stop use of D and Fortnightly Flag when setting non-DirectDebit customers, resulted in not being able to reset the flag to blank.

May contain bugs. Bug involving multiple enties of the same entry cause found and fixed - I think!

Changes together with .csv export file.

4th September 2021

Now copies the text in big edit box to the Deliver To edit box. So you don't need to close the big edit box before saving data.

Bugs Corrected - thanks Severnfresh!.

Add a new version of Flag Group Single Day Invoice but for a week.

18th August 2021

You can now have upto 250 characters. Do check that it prints all the delivery lists correctly and the "Deliver To Text" does not overprint and obscure the Days/Quantities on the list for that customer.

14st July 2021

This ignores people owing less than £10.00. Thanks Andy!

Did not print with three/four to a page. If you use these invoices/receipt please check they print OK.

2st July 2021

I think due to changes in the windows memory management system.

When rolling forward displays multiple copies of "Apply Cancel" window - this was due to debug code being left in! The bug has been fixed.

The weekly totals not showing in edit screen. Fixed thanks Cookie!

29st June 2021

Strange Bug - I think ue to changes in the windows memory management system. The bug has been fixed. There may be other strange bugs crop up so watch out and REPORT!

Warning this system is not backward compatible with systems before 1st July 2019 - You must update all your computers.

8st June 2021

Modified to accept Co-op Business Accounts.csv File Import.

1st Sept 2020

Added SAGE .csv File Import. Thanks Alan!

This system is now backward compatible with systems before 1st July 2019 update your computers.

Warning this system is not backward compatible with systems before 1st July 2019 - You must update all your computers.

16th May 2020

Added STARLING BANK .csv File Import. Thanks Jason!

System was slow when exiting the hot sync screen - it isn't now! Thanks Lee!

You need to do that as a precursor to online customer editing. Some people have found this daunting! Now if you delete the file C:\mr\data\ItemStruct.txt a template file will be read, on the way in,which gives you a starter of how to classify stock items.

The manual setting of the "D" flag for customers without a GoCardless Mandate is now inhibited. It is set automatically by "Check DD Customers" for customers with active mandates.

5th May 2020

Crashed whilst Checking Bank Rules - Shouldn't now. I WOULD URGE YOU TO GO THROUGH CHECK BANK RULES.

DD_Short has been modified to take out unwanted text at start.

Some people have been signed up to GC but MR system did not reflect it. Now if you try to print a DD letter the system checks to see if the you are registered as a partner. If you are then the system sets this automatically. If not it tells you to try to apply for Go_Cardless Account again even is you have already done this.

1st May 2020

Check DD Commands not working due to change of directories as of 24th April - fixed!

24th April 2020

When GoCardless is enabled a new menu GoCardless DD has been added to the top menu line of front page.

In the Scrolling List right click on DD customer - left click on Check GoCardless Status and Payments has been rewritten to provide more information.

All DD files have been moved out of C:\data to C:\data\gocardless and all temporary files "should" now be created in C:\data\junk.

Please reports any problems.

Crashed when deleting customers with Bank Rules. doesn't now!

Created new addition XXDD_QUIKXX creates a much shortened version of the XXDD_LINKXX it is trialed in the standard lett DD_Short

Created new addition XXATTACHXX which is to appear on a single line followed by space and filename to attach to email.

9th April 2020

Small changes Single Click on Check DD Payments screen ment you could right click for lists. GoCardless List now works!

3nd April 2020

Turns out that my programming system uses slighly different color definitions. Butter is now Yellow!

2nd April 2020

Crashed after selecting statement to import due to recent mods. Shouldn't now.

Just what needed now trying collect money by phoning customers. List includes Phone Numbers - thanks to Susan.

30th March 2020

Fixed crash due to blank entry!

Rules deleted during checking now listed on exit!

File last updated date not corrupted after second display.

Added option Show Past/Semi/Skim/Butter colours on Invoice/Del Notes/Del Lists.

Added CSV Export button - let me know what you think.

26th March 2020

Some Added Customer cause Hotsync to crash. Fixed that bug!

18th March 2020

The correct positioning of adverts on two receipts per page was missing. Now there. - Thanks Eli!

15th March 2020

Changed the Date on the Log files to YYMMDD (200315) so that the directory list shows them in correct order. Added the extension ".txt" to the log files saved in C:\mr\data\Bank Statements folder to facilitate opening in NotePad.

11th March 2020

Added mods to properly extract both Name and Address from Statements and improve the matching with customer names and addresses.

Added functions to Bank Rules screen function to:-
Show NEVER PROCESS - to list all entries under the Never Process rule.
Show Multi Entries - check for duplicate rules to ease the checking/deletion of bad rules.
Check Rules - This does a line by line check of all rules. If you have a large number of Bacs payments it may take you some time but will be well worth it.

6th March 2020

Some entries in the .qif file only extracted the name. The mods now properly extract both Name and Address.

5th March 2020

Added Show NEVER PROCESS button.

Added Show Multi Entries button.

4rd March 2020

Added ctrl + B = Kill all Bacs Payments to the Keyboard Commands menu.

Added Reset Amount BFwd to Carried Forward from Last Week to the Options menu. Use with extreme care!

Statement Crashed when a names ended in a number as in "XY X1" . Doesn't now!

28th February 2020

Improved the matching of names and address to bank statement.

Since Gocardless generally has better names/address information this can be transfered into the system.

When the check boxes Cash on Delivery Notes and Show Vat are checked the Delivery Notes Title will be Invoice.

When setting Statement Options you can now select as Plain Paper Invoice. (Less assertive!)

13th February 2020

Alas the "Much Improved Checking" did not account for multiple payments - does now!

11th February 2020

Solved the problem of some bank rules not being saved properly.

Much improved the checking of reconciliation after the event. - Thanks Dennis!

6th February 2020

Crashed on file open error. Simple programming error made filename "week2020 4" rather than "week202004" - fixed - thank Gemma!.

3rd February 2020

Simple mistake in previous version disabled several functions in DDs.

28th January 2020

You can now choose to produce this for a flag set - thanks Andy!

You can now email a version of Short Form Monthly - Thanks Victoria!

Long standing bug - fixed thankyou - Jason!

In processing unfound customers it now shows amount paid at bank and the amount Bfwd for possible matching customers!

11th January 2020

Previously hot sync would stop with error - now continues getting the correct customer!

8th January 2020

Did not deal with December as a 6 week month and an end of decade too well. Does now. Thank you for reporting it Gemma!

Since the installation process asks if you want to over-write the existing system there is no need delete it causing Windows to delete shortcuts.

6th December 2019

Did not do the Cash/Cheque statement correctly. Thank goodness someone bothered to report it - Thanks Rhys!

Strange effects when adding multiple payments to multiday payers. Strange no one picked this up? Fixed (I think) Thanks Mr. Abbas

26th November 2019

Checks to see that the Default App for .xml files did not properly check for current user's Choice. - does now!

The time delay between hot-syncs and being able to move the tablet onto another round has been removed.
In some cases this led to the Hotsync looping needing a reboot to recover. - sorted thanks Ray!

You can now choose whether you want to print labels for Email Invoice customers or not. - Thanks Victoria!

I have had a few complaints about how long it was taking to return to the current week after viewing last weeks - Fixed I think?

Added XXUCNXX (print UCN) to standard letter codes. Also modified to allow more readable codes enclosed in curly brackets as in {UNC}, {NAME} etc.. Thanks Victoria!
Have a look at Customer Details - Set Letter Names to see all of the codes.

17th November 2019

Checks to see that the Default App for .xml files is "Microsoft Edge","Internet Explorer","FireFox" or "NotePad" other apps may cause problems.

The time delay between hot-syncs and being able to move the tablet onto another round has been removed.

7th November 2019

Problem text too wide for page. Moved "You may Pay..." at front of text onto a new line - comments?

Searching for new DD customers is now done on selecting just the 'D' (or the DD_fortnightly) flag. This means that you always send DD bills for all available DD customers. DO REPORT ANYTHING STRANGE!

5th November 2019

Didn't display the names of unlicensed HH properly - does now!

27th October 2019 - Urgent Update

for all Systems updated since 27th September 2019

Previously changed the scrolling list background colour when in past weeks. This didn't so left user unsure if in past week. Revert back to past behaviour.

Had one customer who had rolled previously and had a file he was about to overwrite. The file was malformed this caused the roll forward to fail!? Now Fixed! - Thanks Ray!

24th October 2019 - Urgent Update

As a result of the trap set to find bug. It appeared when adding Customers via HH. It results in the Hot Sync hanging (not completing) or two customers with the same UCN. Now fixed!

When button pressed now opens then closes the weekfile to check file is openable.

11th October 2019

You can now invite people to pay by direct debits from your website.

Added Menu - Make DD Invite Code for your Website which generates your individual code to add to your website, and shows how it would look.

Added Menu - Post DD Links to Web which makes an encoded file cross referencing non-DD customers emails with there unique DD_Link code and posts it to the web.

Should a customer enter an email address not registered with you, they are directed to send you and email with their name and address.

Now has only one customer number - again.

27th September 2019

These listing did not have heading such as Round Name etc. They do now! Thanks Dave and Allison!.

26th September 2019

Now shows the start and end dates of week as it did before edits earlier in year - Thanks Eli!.

Did not have Telephone numbers or Vat Numbers displayed properly HH printed/emailed delivery note - Do Now thanks Eli!

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12th September 2019

Added option to do remote support via Google Chrome (you need Version 76.+) Click Help on Front Page.

Fortnightly DD saved in with wrong filename - fixed!

5th September 2019

Sending link letter to new customers caused the writing to customer 3500 error. Fixed Thankyou Victoria!

Fixed spacing bug - thanks Andy!

3rd September 2019

The maximium time has changed from 4 to 8 seconds.

Fortnightly Flag system changes input to Upper Case.

Check for existing DD requests failed for new DD users. Doesn't now thanks Victoria.

Recent changes regarding checking database integrity stopped this working.

The line spacing has reduced when note has more than 10 items. Fonts fixed on continuation sheet.

27th August 2019

When deleting DD info from customer details - Have you deleted Mandate? Yes did not allow DD info to be deleted! Does now.

When first sending DD to GoCardless if you answered NO to do youwant to send them now.. the system did not delete file so you could not reproduce them. Does now! - thanks Andy.

The system has been speeded up by not setting zero UCNs when opening files in past weeks.

The system goes faster if you do an Options - Tidyup Customer List now and again, in the Edit Cust customer list, BUT NOT IN PAST WEEKS! This will change customer numbers, if this messes up your operation you should be using Show UCN's on Invoice in invoice options. UCN = Unchanging Customer Number.

14th August 2019

Added checkbox on way into sending link letter to change "month" in letter to "two week". As in from "monthly" to "two weekly".

5th August 2019 (from 10th July)

Added Delete Mandate button the Customer Detail - Direct Debit tab.

Changed check for good email addresss which removed(reported cancelled) DD info.

System was not resending unsent Bills.

System now lists bills that have been manually cancelled.

Now shows average customer weekly spend. This is going to

Now shows daily vat sales.

Users with multiple databases can now give different port numbers to handhelds to ensure handhelds can't hotsync to the wrong datafile.

Added Get Flag from Last Week and Search Payment Log for Entries.

Menu - Edi Types - Show Email Customers will now list all corrupted email address if it finds any.

Now prevents you sending links to new customer with a UCN=0.

Changes to accomodate multiple data bases meant the system nolonger deleted cancelled customer data from DD active mandate data. Does now!

If the email address does not have an @ sign the Email Invoice flag is reset.

Much improved search for corresponding customer.

For users with Ordered Collection Lists doing raising/lowering customers. The causes of the bug have been corrected and a trap set in database routines for any reoccurence.

10th July 2019.

Some code changes - recommended update.

4th July 2019.

Due to Microsoft tightening their code a long standing error stopped working - Should now!

3rd July 2019. URGENT UPDATE

Some minor code changes.

Due to errors this will corrupt Token Payments during roll forward. Now Fixed. If you updated since 1st July You need this update!

2nd July 2019.

Changes to heading of the emailed invoice email Subject and Content (regarding Hi and Mr/Mrs) - thankyou Victoria.

The layout of Invoice Options has been changed. It was as a result of this change it was noticed that a modification made years ago to save changes to windows sizes, restricted the size of windows subsequently enlarged. This has been corrected. However, this change, may result in some windows not displaying properly so please notify of any occurrances.

Some minor code changes. You can now view your cancellations by from menu Check Mandates - Cancelled by You.

This is very important to Direct Debit customers and has just come to light. Before this update all files downloaded were CASHED which means that they are saved locally. If the file is then modified and re-downloaded shortly after, you get the old copy not the new. The system now uses NOCASH as the default.

1st July 2019 (Warning this system is not backward compatible so you must update all your computers).

Small change regarding multiple payments during week. Improvements to View Bank Rules.

You can now select all days you want deleting in one go. This makes it a whole lot more usable.

You can now sort all deliver lists to use the same order as items are displayed in Type/Subtype list.
BEWARE - If you have a Type/Subtype list you need to keep it upto date!
You will be asked if want to do this sort as the last question when rolling forward.

Now reset on Roll Forward. Thanks Andy M!

The system will now keep an "approximate" 8 weekly average value to be used later to actively show over due debts. Time will tell!

Further rewriting and simplifing of Check All DD Customers code. The checking for unused "active" and "missing" mandates has been speeded up. You can now cancel unwanted mandates.

4th June 2019

I have had a few reports of windows not displaying correctly or having to resized. The actual display often depends on local screen resolution and text size settings.

Speed Buttons Not Showing on scrolling list.
Tabs Not Showing on Customer Details.

Please report any screens not display correctly. Make sure you are using the latest system, take a photo of screen and include the screen resolution being used.

Emailing Invoice headings Form Sizes Saving small sizes

25th May 2019

Further rewriting and simplifying of Check All DD Customers code. Added checking for unused "active" mandates.

Sorry my fault due to change in List to Screen - fixed! - Thanks Lee and others.

19th May 2019

Sometimes displayed with very small text. Fixed? Thanks Andy C!

Added checkbox Requires Daily Order No. in customer details screen. Order number is added in customer edit screnn.
Daily Order Nos are now displayed on Delivery Notes as well as Pre-Printed Weekly Invoices. Thanks Andy M!

13th May 2019

In Customer Order Edit screen the Weekly Order Number was not displayed when you first clicked from scrolling list - is now.
Weekly Order No is now displayed on Delivery Notes as well as Pre-Printed Weekly Invoices. Thanks Andy M!

Todate invoices with zero Vat content did not show Vat. They should! They do now! Thanks Andrew V!

Sometimes displayed with very small text. Fixed? Thanks Andy C!

6th May 2019

The File Time Stamp used now uses the last updated date/time rather than the created date/time. Thank you Ian!

3st May 2019

Summaries have not been subtracting negative VAT from totals - Fixed! Thank you Eli who took the time and effort to go into detail! Sorry for the inconvenience.

2st May 2019

Jason, as eagle eyed as ever, has found recent mods have upset this - Fixed thankyou Jason!

1st May 2019

Having tidyed up the code I made one omission so some some things didn't print to screen. Now fixed!

Mr/Mrs has been removed from invoices by popular request.

Tidyed up some code so wait and see....?

30th April 2019

Edit Cust - (Scrolling List) Help - Setting Payment Status
Edit Cust - (Scrolling List) Help - Multi-Man Delivery Lists, and,
Edit Cust - (Scrolling List) - Customer Details - Help - Make Payment Files, which attempts to explain the Reconcile Invoices (No Collect) switch in customer details.

did not display correctly. Do now.

All DD users need to do update. Slight change in cases were not all Bills were sent. Not detecting cancelled mandates correctly - does now. Thanks Andy!

When no payment has been entered for the week A, P, F works the same as non multi-day payers. Thanks Paul!

When the system was first created it was common place for people paying by cheque to ask for cash back. For this reason you are asked for the check value separately. Is this still needed?

23th April 2019

Should now be correct as file LastSync.txt is deleted before each write.

Has been change to introduce a button on front screen for Check DD Payments. Also now resends bills not sent first time through.

You should now not be able to select a month that is not complete.

Gives a summary of where you are going and a quick view of age of debt. I have one customer who has an average age of debt of 2 weeks!!! - it is possible!

Added Sales on Day list, on second page, which must be available for HCMR but does need to be entered whilst entering VAT.

Crashed on a six week month - depending on year.

9th April 2019

Auto backup files were saved in the opened condition so difficult to list - fixed.

It is not a good idea to leave the system in the scrolling list. The system now returns to the Front Screen after 10 minutes of inacctivity..

The Auto backup counter has been moved to be more visable.

28th Mar 2019

Payments are now in the order appearing on End of Week Summary, and Cash is there too.

Now includes easy access to Downloads Folder. This is where the Check for Updates are saved.

21st Mar 2019

In cases where the user (that's you) did not have any cancelled Mandates the system did not check for payments correctly. Does now - Thanks Jason!

20th Mar 2019

In some cases this did not work correctly. F5 now searches through the last 18 weeks.

18th Mar 2019

Now includes Vat Sales per month. Feedback Welcome!

MOST IMPORTANT - if you notice any problems with this new system please call ASAP.

14th Mar 2019

The 150 day trial only allowed 15 imports fixed - thanks Dennis!

Small change to code.

12th Mar 2019

MR8 was not being built with the latest Check DD Payments software.

It should now PRINT!

9th Mar 2019

REMEMBER - You can now try out the Bank Statement Import. You get a 150 day free trial - GIVE IT A TRY! Anything you don't understand please call.

When imported statement has impermissable dates, the system now displays the dates not allowed.

A THOUGHT! - One user sends bills fortnighty. One half (of customers) one week the other the next week. He processes the invoices/DDs on a Monday morning for the previous week upto the end of the current week. This means that when he gets paidout is 100% upto date. This is cash flow at it's best! - Great Idea Jason!

One user now has over 800 customers on direct debits!.

7th Mar 2019

Note - files from HH are saved in file C:\mr\data\Phones\user\wk201906_0214_101403 where 201906 = weeknumber 0214 (date) = monthday 101403 (time) = hoursminssec. You can hot sync these files by clicking Hot Sync Saved File!

7th Mar 2019

Note - files from HH are saved in file C:\mr\data\Phones\user\wk201906_0214_101403 where 201906 = weeknumber 0214 (date) = monthday 101403 (time) = hoursminssec. You can hot sync these files by clicking Hot Sync Saved File!

Some users have been having problems with some invoice emails being designated as SPAM. After advice on this matter, the email Subject has been simplified and the email starts with the customers name and address. The body of the invoice remains un changed.

Check DD Payment has been rewritten to list the various states bills can be in at GC. There can now be more than one outstanding bill set requiring reconcilliation.

Check DD Customers nolonger add customer in the "pending_submission" or "submitted" pre-active states. This allows direct debits to got through without these bills having to resubmitted when they become active.

Sending DD Bills the system now does not submit bills for customers with still outstanding bills. It also allows you to collect amounts below £5.00 (and over £1.00) when the BACSCode is set to "=19 Final Payment" in the Customer Details - Direct Debit section.

End of Week Summary - DD payments are now subtracted from CASH.

Previously the system allowed processing when corrupt data was detected. A couple of users continued in this state for several weeks, digging a deeper and deeper hole for themselves. The system now HALTS allowing no further processing. Users affected should recover their data using Secondary Functions - Recover Auto Backup and choosing the latest date/time.

Thankyou for putting up with the current version. It has now been improved to only warn when the system starts, and nolonger warns when you roll forward before time.

Summaries have been moved out of the Loading List menu to a new Summaries menu.

This is still in development and will be usable to print a summary for each round, and include Vat Sales per month. Feedback Welcome!

MOST IMPORTANT - if you notice any problems with this new system please call ASAP.

7th Feb 2019

Some modifications + added shortcut to desktop!

When you are editing in a past week and an error occurs which crashes the system, when you reenter you will be in the wrong week! The system has been modified to recognise this has happened and ask you if you wish go to correct week.

I have noticed that after update the firewall entry for MR8_for_Win.exe is duplicated which stops HotSync working. Required Action -> Delete one of the entries and tick all boxes on the remaining entry.

1st Feb 2019

After 30 years someone found a bug! Total did not include payments made during week. Does now Thanks Andy!

This has been extended to 120 characters. Seperate multiple emails addresses by a comma.

Now displays the start and end dates of week.

Statements did not print if the balance outstanding was zero unless Invoice Option Print -ve Balance was set.

Small change to improve working.

18th Jan 2019

Only set this if your customer has told you not to send spam! Added hint to that effect.

You can now try out the Bank Statement Import. You get a 150 day free trial - GIVE IT A TRY! Anything you don't understand please call.

You can now view past DD history.

16th Jan 2019

Now allows for special chars.

8th Jan 2019

Sage Reference is now included in all text searches. This could be useful even if you don't use Sage.

You can now offer the Sage Reference as a reference for BAC transfers. (Shown on invoices)

1st Jan 2019 - Happy New Year!

Apologies to all new tablet users. The tablet name was not being read correctly from MR8_for_Win.xml settings file.

29th Dec 2018

Added Remote support to Help Menu on front page.
The first time you click it takes you to the CloudBerry download page. Click on the right hand download button.
The second time you click it it should open up the remote support app showing User ID and password. This will allow me to see your screen.

19th Nov 2018

The system now allows dairies with multiple data bases to use direct debits. If in doubt ask.

Now allows direct debits for fortnightly customers. You set the Fortnightly DD Flag in the GoCardless processing menu. Upon the fortnightly customer becoming a DD customer it will automatically given flag "D". You must then manually change the flag to the Fortnightly DD Flag.

MOST IMPORTANT - if you notice any problems with this new system please call ASAP.

17th Oct 2018

The minimum invoice value has been raised to £5 because of the 20p minimum charge.

The system now automatically adds a space to each line of the letter to prevent the compiler merging words at end of line and start of next.

17th Oct 2018

Items displayed after text string search have correct font and line spacing.

You can now import files with types:- *.Recpt_Advert, *.RTF (rich text file) and *.TXT (simple text file).

9th Oct 2018

Added the detailed transfer of invoice data to Xero Accounts Package!

Get trend information about business activities. Not fully worked up!

27th Sept 2018

Removed warning about encryping emails when sending "DD_Letter". Nolonger needed!

Not fully worked up! Now residing in Utilities but will be moved to Other Lists.

11th Sept 2018

Added aids to help finding stock item via Search and Type/Subtype (if present) - let me know what you think!.

Not displaying Card payments correctly - does now!.

I was reminded recently how poor the advert editing was for invoice adverts.
Added Rich Text Editor.
Not fully worked up but let me know what you think.

Have improved warnings for selecting Dot Matrix Printer for Speed.

17th July 2018

Letters to Customers can now have be a ".txt" text file , or a ".htm". Text files are added to the body of the email "as is" without any formatting. This should make sending letters with invoice simpler, for those who were having problems with send htm emails.

14th June 2018

Some observant user notice it was possible to click the Red Cross at the top RH corner whilst in a past week with uncertain results. This now reverts to the same behaviour as pressing the Exit button. !

OK the last effort didn't work this one should. Thanks Lee!

7th June 2018

Not saving GPS location data correctly during hotsync (NO ONE TOLD ME!!) - does now. Thanks Pete!

Google Changed the rules! - now works!

28th May 2018

You can now disable the Back buttons that allow changes to be done in past week.

You can now disable the use of Ctrl+F.

These settings may be lost when you change computer.

25th May 2018

Now ctrl+shift+F does a same as ctrl+F Search for text string.

24th May 2018

The problem is that some users press shift+F (Cheque Payment) instead of ctrl+F (Search for text string) when doing a search. When cancelling out of the mistake (easiest way by pressing Esc button at top left) the payment is STILL LOGGED in the payments log in error.
The system has been modified to stop this logging - Thanks to Ongar!

20th May 2018

If the Type/Subtype has not been defined or has not been modified beyond it's default state then these tick boxes cannot be ticked.

Previousely these lists had to be fully popilated with no blank customers in the list. Now an Ordered List (from say customer =1 to 1000) can have blank customers in list. Previousely these lists had to be fully popilated with no blank customers in the list. Must be used with Milk_22_180520 or later.

3rd May 2018

Programming error for items numbers more than 80 - fixed!

Invoice top only moved header down. Now moves invoice body too - Thanks Eli!

24th April 2018

This did not work. It only listed items for all Men. Does now! Thanks Lee!

3rd April 2018

Entering a payment on clicking on the small payment (p) button it requests the cheque value? - Fixed - thanks Stephen

2nd April 2018

Cheque Value Input not working - does now. Thanks Dave and Andy!

23th March 2018

Rules for 100% match have been tightened but may fail in cases where you have the same address with "18 Random Road" and "18 Random Close". If matches have been found with 100% the system will now given you a chance to revise the rules - so check the 100%'ers and redo as necessary! - Thanks - David!

C = by Credit Card and X = by PayPal do check that the payment listings are correct. Thanks Lee and Andy!

17th March 2018

This did not work. It only listed items for all Men. Does now! Thanks Lee!

10th March 2018

You can now delete lines in bank rules. Also when customers are deleted their bank rules entry is deleted automatically.

3rd March 2018

A couple of lines of code creating the DD progress bar had disappeared? They have be restored. Thanks Lee!

2nd March 2018

22th Febuary 2018

Made adding new HH phones to Setup Android User a little bit easier by letting user type "UserName".

21th Febuary 2018

19th Febuary 2018

If the required checkbox is not set - now asks if you want to set it..

Added checkboxes to select the old way of entering goto customer number by pressing number keys.

6th Febuary 2018

Nolonger shows message on entering hot sync screen.

Data size extended to accomodate Tim's 12k ItemStructure file. If you have a large file (crashes during hotsync) please use abreviations.

5th Febuary 2018

For those people who deliver to customer who potentially can have lots of items but no fixed standing order this function makes all items be, printed on delivery notes, single day listings, and displayed on tablet.

Slight change to stop wrong files being transferred.

You can only set this by having setup a Type/Subtype list in Edit Stock Data and have Show Item Types ticked in the AddItem - Select Item screen in customer edits! i.e. You have a Type/Subtype list and are using it!

30th January 2018

For those people who send invoices by email you can opt to automatically set Email Invoice on all new and optionally all existing customers with an email address.

Now uses stream to display log file - streams have different error messages.

18th January 2018

When types and subtypes are enabled in system the tick box on the hotsync screen is automatically ticked.

For those people who only deliver to businesses you can opt to automatically set Show Vat on all new and optionally all existing customers.

6th January 2018

Bug fix for rare bug involving Day Cancel on Web.

31st December 2017

Modified to cope with cloud system being upgraded to Java 8.

Made Cloud Test Version menu visible to aid testing of new software.

22th December 2017

Added 0 = Reset to get back to original default state.

20th December 2017

Improved warnings, disabled public holiday instruction if none are set, and changed wording.

11th December 2017

This caused some unexpected problems - Please use Help - Check for Updates instead.

This has been changed to default type 0 to 8 as some users had problems.

Bryn Coal has a different delivery route each day. We now print out a list of post codes requiring delivery tomorrow, which is copied into MyRouteOnline. The resulting routes are then copied back into system for Delivery Lists in the Order of Delivery.

8th December 2017

Long Standing Oversight - other lists printed from an Ordered List allow the selection of flags to be included or excluded. Invoice printing did not - does now. Sorry it took so long. Thanks Ann W!

If after successfully searching for a string, when you search for another but enter a string that is NOT found, the top line of the previous list still shows. If you then click that row you get an empty customer which is a bit unsettling - fixed! Thanks Dave M!

The legacy API had small caps on the amount that could be requested by DD. The new API has a default of £5000. Alas the customers whose mandates were created under the old API still have those limits. If you demand more than the old limit the DD run will fail. The existing system does not tell you about the problem this one does! I better solution is coming! thanks Jim F!

22nd November 2017

Simplified Do Full Backup to Primary/Secondary Folders and Open Primary/Secondary Folders.

Provided the post code is in either the customers name or address, and has either no space or one space, the system should find it. Once found if the location is not present then the location is found from a Google service. The service is limited by number of trys so keep trying. I found Sunday evening is a good time to try. Locations can be useful on Phones for directions.

When Delivery Man is Set to A to Z (in Edit Cust - Options - Del Man Set.) You can now reprint a single man.

14th November 2017

Listings that support listing by Man that don't require selection of Day - being ask for Day - Fixed I Think please check! Thanks James!

Do check - Seven Day Deliveries, Seven Day Differences, Start of Week Collection List, End of Week Collection List.

13th November 2017

Error found the New Customer Links (those pesky links GGGrrrhh!) - now fixed DO TRY - Thanks Tim!

10th November 2017

GoTo Customer Number command is now Ctrl + G and now works!

9th November 2017

Delivery details not printing if first item in order has quantity of zero. Now prints correctly (after 17 years!!).

When Delivery Man is Set to A to Z (in Edit Cust - Options - Del Man Set. Provided to aid the loading of weight restricted vehicles) all other Delivery listings are now disabled until the man set is returned to 1 to 6.

You can now highlight all customers using Ctrl+A, then set all men with Ctrl + Alt + 1...6 or a...z.

It is better to do a Front Page - Help - Check for Updates than a download from website, as it keeps a copy of the Installer in C:\mr\downloads\. This can be useful if you need to revert to an earlier version.

6th November 2017

The system has been modified to adapt bank rules when the bank adds cross-reference text at end the usually name/address.

So if the rule changes each time:-

On first time defining rule refers to "NAME/ADDRES REFA123".
On next time defining rule using reference "NAME/ADDRES REFB456".
On subsequent times the rule would automatically be changed to "NAME/ADDRES REF").

When this happens you will have to confirm the identity (Is "NAME/ADDRES REF" the same customer as "NAME/ADDRES REF678" ???YES/NO). but you will not have to search for the customer again.

PLEASE NOTE - Existing users should carefully check the function is giving the correct results and that the NOT PROCESSED enries are printed in a readable manner following the these changes.

Command to set Man is now Ctrl + Alt + 1...6 or a..z.
Single Day Delivery List will now print a list for men A to Z.

GoTo Customer Number command is now Ctrl + G.

GoTo UCN Number command is now Ctrl + U.

1st November 2017

Now continues to process entries not requiring user action after pressing quit.

26th October 2017

Modified Check DD Payments when reconciled is YES then shows list of payments reconciled.

Modified Check DD Payments when reconciled is NO a review of state ofplay is shown before and after checking.

Now shows processed entries in customer order as well, also repaints scrolling list after recent modes.

17th October 2017

Modified Check DD Payments listing to handle cancelled Mandates.

17th October 2017

The Goto radio group on scrolling list was not saving properly (after 17 years!!!) does now - Thanks Victoria!

Modified Send DD Bills to allow for Mandates cancelled after checking for cancelled Mandates.

Modified links used in DD_Letter please check that works for you.

11th October 2017

One improvement removed another streamlined - Thanks Lee!

8th October 2017

The timeout period had been reduced in error - returned to original value.

7th October 2017

In an effort to detect a zero length mr?_for_Win.xml the system failed when loading on a new computer - fixed.

5th October 2017

Added the hotsyncing of dump data to allow HH operations to be checked for suspicious actions. Needs Milk_2.1 verion MR171003 or later.

Improved the showing of error messages during hotsync.

Made the renaming of HH easier.

Two per page printing total on left hand slips printed in error. Thanks Stephen Cook

Santander Bank Statements some entries on statement not being processed. Code changed but do check all entries are being processed and report any problems. (Thanks Bob!)

24th September 2017

Adding of new Mandates and Deleting cancelled Mandates had been disabled during testing of the new API and was not re-instated - is now!

Please Note - Disabling a Customer resets the ucn - you must check that the DD Data in Customer Detail has been deleted. If the Customer subsequently returns you must resend the DD_Letter to re-establish the (new) ucn-mandate relationship.

16th September 2017

Santander Bank Statements some entries on statement not being processed. Code changed but do check all entries are being processed and report any problems. (Thanks Andy)

14th September 2017

Not showing payouts already processed.

Not setting YES when all customers have been reconciled.

13th September 2017

One entry on statement not being processed. Code changed but do check all entries are being processed and report any problems. (Thanks Andy)

12th September 2017

Improved?? the listing of new categories of payment status.

Improved the listing and instructions for mandates found on GoCardless but not present in your data.

Added reminder that when DD_Letter is sent to your customers, the email must be Digitally Signed (google "comodo email certificate") and Encrypted, to ensure they will be able to click the link.

6th September 2017

The system has been updated to the new "Pro API" standard the old system will not work after 31st October 2017.

Added List DD (historical) payments from a single customer in scrolling list. Right click on D flag customer - then left click on Check GoCardless Payments.

In Scrolling List DD customers are checked on exiting for "D" flags with no DD data, and for DD data with no "D" flag. In both cases you can delay in dealing with these issues.

Standard Letter processing has been changed to remove spurious text being left over from optional paragraphs, and improve the display of the authorisation link in DD_Letter which might have left some people confused.

You can now select all customers by pressing Ctrl+A in the scrolling list.

You can now add multiple Cash Items (Cheese Weights) to the HH and have them hot sync correctly - thanks Andy!.

2nd August 2017

Add "Price" and "Service" to reasons for Cancel UTFN.

Last Invoice Value was not being be saved properly - due to an old modification - thanks Colin!

12th June 2017

Processing .csv statements can now handle blank lines.

In Scrolling List you can nolonger disable payment logging. When payments are displayed on editing the scrolling list and on pressing Log button no edits can be done.

When bringing forward delivery day for just Public Holday Takers all customer where given an alternate standing order even when they did not take public holidays. This sometimes caused cancel overlaps - doesn't now! Thanks - Lee!

5th May 2017

You can now enter select a reason for the UTFN cancellation. Thanks Lee!

This data is transfer to and from the Android App. so you need to update that.

The system now asks if you wish to reset the cancelled days in the current week.

21st April 2017

Windows 10 did it again! NotePad.exe is nolonger distributed with Win 10. So the Payment Log could not be displayed using the Log button at top right. Have resorted to my Results Window so can now.

If you find any other buttons that don't work please email me.

18th April 2017

From now on the addition (or removal) of spaces, commas and full stops, and changing case (Upper/Lower) will not invalidate your edongle. Apologies to all who suffered.

Added Lloyds Bank .csv to statements to be imported and processed. Call to find out how to save a lot of time.

5th April 2017

System crashed when the start of week day is Saturday - doesn't now! Thanks Eli!

4th March 2017

Added Help menu stating rules for statements to be imported.

Added Send Steve Debug Data to the Direct Debit menu in System Utilities.

System now lists all customers that exceed their credit limit (if non zero, set in customer details) - thanks Lee.

Use this when the price is likely to change during the week (typically for Fish bought at market). In Milk Round Utilities - Edit Stock Data put a "V" in the Ty column. Variable priced items cannot be stock managed. These items behave like Cheese Weights but the price for each item must be entered on each if it has not been previously added already for that day. In the Customer Edit screen prices can be changed by pressing F5 whilst the cursor is in the Day field. When a price is entered that price is set for all following days of that week.

You now cannot move cash items (to another day) that are none zero.

Once a a cash item has been set you must now confirm you want to change it. Warning given!

Crashed when Ctrl button pressed (used during testing) - doesn't now.

13th Jan 2017

Some recent changes done it error - rectified. Thankyou Susan!

9th Jan 2017

Some people cannot stop with Double Clicking of MR8 buttons These problems have been fixed in this form.

After Raising and Lowering Phones in the list the form was not properly redrawn - is now.

Checkbox added to Web Interface to allow disabling of Add Items.

Hotsync crashed when customer was added after checking Ordered Collection Lists - doesn't now. Thanks - Mark!

When printing Pre-printed Weekly Invoices for more than one week where there was no deliveries in the last week the invoice was not printed - is now! Thanks - Viv!

7th Dec 2016

These problems have been fixed...??

If this update causes problems then a safe version can be downloaded from http://www.MR8_Installer_161123.exe.

2nd Dec 2016

Historic mods crashed the system due to array bound errors. These problems have been fixed...??

7th Nov 2016

There was a problem with sending letters with invoices if the .htm extension of the letter was in uppercase. Now works with whatever case.

If your windows user has been setup with User Account Conrol you may not have read/write access to the c:\MR folder. This will result in files not being saved in the desired folders. Also windows will virtualise the MR folder in C:\users\your_user\AppData folder with unpredictable results. A new test has been added to detect this on startup. A possible solution is for you to rename the MR folder to MR_old recreate a new MR folder then copy the contents of MR_old to the new C:\MR folder. Make sure you have a full backup before you do this. You only need to do this ONCE!

Currency character for the Euro crashed the system now fixed! Thanks John H..

5th Oct 2016

This warning was issued in error. (In light of previous print problem). What had happened was the website mymilkbill.org that looks after Edongle and Direct Debit data was upgraded and some aspect to do with my ability to edit the edongle data was blocked. All appears to be back to normal now.

Listing of UTFN cancels added during week now shows amount owing and contact telephone numbers. Thanks Lee!

The function has been changed to account for businesses who want the holiday order on the next day if the quantity is higher. Do check it worked! It's very new. Thanks Viv!

28th Sept 2016

Error in code allowing me to clone users - fixed!

26th Sept 2016

Added code allow Hotsync (update) of cloud file from c:\mr\data\Cloud_downloads\ folder!

Fixed after attempts to circumvent Windows Update bugs.

12th Sept 2016

All names removed from emails via Outlook.

Use restored please test.

22nd June 2016

Added a bit more clarity perhaps.

The system does not allow you to set a Secondary Backup Destination if it does not exist.

22nd June 2016

Added code to aid the debugging of Web Based Ordering!

20th June 2016

One Step forward two steps back! This got screwed up by 17th Update - Thanks Eli!

17th June 2016

Added by popular demand!

Sorry folks! A side-effect of adding the Total Active Customers to the The of Week Summary was that the VAT totals were double the correct values. Sorry still got it wrong - have removed affending code and counted total active customers in a different way.

15th June 2016

Crashed whilst processing "ignore entry rule" - fixed.

11th June 2016

A side-effect of adding the Total Active Customers to the The of Week Summary was that the VAT totals were double the correct values.

Text sizes in list increased slightly.

9th June 2016

If you have a very mixed up stock list make one of these. Improvements:-
1- Click on Type/Subtype on LHS moves cursor to that item in the RHS list to aid checking. If it points to the wrong item then press Delete.
2 - Presssing the Delete key on keyboard deletes that entry in type/s list.
3 - Added the Search facility so the you can display all cheese (say) in one go.
4 - Improved saving so system crash keeps any changes made.

I have just been working in this (there are no right or wrong answers you make work for you) Type/Subtype List:-